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he didn't say they have to go up to clinton levels. that's where i think you begin to see the outlines of the deal that we will end up having, hopefully, at the end of the year. >> do you see signs of republicans that, yes, i have heard this too from actually republican aides. i haven't -- not anybody that was willing to put their name on it and would vote on it, but who said, you know, we sort of see that there probably will be something around tax rates, but it won't be back up to the clinton levels, and it may be for not the $250,000 limit. is there anything up there that makes you think republicans would give on the rates? >> republicans have told me privately they will give on the rates. they are not in the interest after this election in defending millionaires. the rates go -- the threshold for tax increases moves off of 250,000 to 500, 750,000, 800,000, a million, they will budge on rates. it will probably end up being somewhere around 37%. it's time for some give. they don't want to say it at the mikes, but they've been saying
he didn't say they have to go up to clinton levels. that's where i think you begin to see the outlines of the deal that we will end up having, hopefully, at the end of the year. >> do you see signs of republicans that, yes, i have heard this too from actually republican aides. i haven't -- not anybody that was willing to put their name on it and would vote on it, but who said, you know, we sort of see that there probably will be something around tax rates, but it won't be back up to the...
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plus, hillary clinton in 2016. some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. our martin savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. he's "outfront." e emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. get to holiday fun faster energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self-contained well systems. and, using state-of-the-art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our
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plus, hillary clinton in 2016. some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. our martin savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. he's "outfront." uff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. [ ding! ] losing your chex mix too easily? time to deploy the boring-potato chip decoy bag. then no one will want to steal the deliciousness. [ male announcer ] with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix is a bag of interesting. [ male announcer ] with a variety of tastes and textures, why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thom
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look at president clinton bess towing the medal of freedom on world war ii veteran bob dole. that's just weeks after re-election back in 1996. why do i show you all of these? because it all brings me to a very special party of two having lunch next hour at the white house. president obama, as promised, in his victory speech 23 days ago, is hosting mitt romney, who has made no secret that he really thought that it would be the other way around. and our dan lothian is counting down the minutes, standing by at the white house, even though, dan, you are not invited to the luncheon, nor am i or anyone else at the camera, a mic or even a pen. why is it so private? >> reporter: that's right. oftentimes, the president will have meetings here at the white house, lunches or official meetings, where the president is not invited in. our cameras are not allowed in. sometimes our cameras are allowed in but no editorial presence. this one of those where no cameras allowed in, we're hopeful the white house will take a pick pur and release it to us, but at this point no plans for us to sort o
look at president clinton bess towing the medal of freedom on world war ii veteran bob dole. that's just weeks after re-election back in 1996. why do i show you all of these? because it all brings me to a very special party of two having lunch next hour at the white house. president obama, as promised, in his victory speech 23 days ago, is hosting mitt romney, who has made no secret that he really thought that it would be the other way around. and our dan lothian is counting down the minutes,...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...
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tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. same tax rates. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again in a bigger package, but i agree with you. i think we have to get serious about these spending cuts. i just applied for social security and i want mine. >> all right. rich, appreciate it. eric, thanks. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter. @andersoncooper. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> just ahead, 21 months after bashir al assad began killing his own people, the fighting is raging in syria. the rest of the world may finally be convinced things are critical there. senator john mccain is asking what took so long. we'll tell you about what just changed. more from
tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. same tax rates. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again...
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we have good news for hillary clinton. if she decides to run for president in 2016, 57% of those polled by abc news and the washington post said they would support clinton. 37% said they would not support her candidacy. in addition -- in addition, the poll shows an overwhelming majority of women surveyed 66% would back her. only 47% of men would, roland. >> she wants some rest. she's been traveling four years. give her two years. my god! >> you just never know. >> she wants to rest for two years. my goodness. >> when she's done with the nap or whatever, the vacation or the spa -- >> can we get to the inauguration before we go to the '16? >> i vote for that. >>> doctors and lawyers have to take tests before they can start practicing. what about people who educate our kids? we'll talk to aft, american federation of teachers president, randi weingarten, for teachers to take bar-like exams. and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003
we have good news for hillary clinton. if she decides to run for president in 2016, 57% of those polled by abc news and the washington post said they would support clinton. 37% said they would not support her candidacy. in addition -- in addition, the poll shows an overwhelming majority of women surveyed 66% would back her. only 47% of men would, roland. >> she wants some rest. she's been traveling four years. give her two years. my god! >> you just never know. >> she wants to...
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. >>> president hillary clinton? i say that because the majority of new yorkers want to hear that in four years. three-quarters of those asked have a favorable view of the secretary of state, who was once a senator from new york. former first lady said that running for political office is not in her future. >>> a big win for netflix. internet movie provider inks a deal to become the exclusive television provider for disney's new releases, including titles from studios like pixar and marvel. the deal could cost netflix $300 million a year. the deal won't send films your way until 2016. >>> and days of rain across the west coast are taking a toll in western washington state. the national weather service says there's a risk of landslides, like that one, in everett. the ground could also slide in seattle, tacoma and bremerton. one year, 365 days. that's how long american scott kelley and a russian will spend on the sbrshl space station. his trip will be the longest by an american on a single mission. john zarrella joins
. >>> president hillary clinton? i say that because the majority of new yorkers want to hear that in four years. three-quarters of those asked have a favorable view of the secretary of state, who was once a senator from new york. former first lady said that running for political office is not in her future. >>> a big win for netflix. internet movie provider inks a deal to become the exclusive television provider for disney's new releases, including titles from studios like...
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and the man who shut down the government under bill clinton. what newt gingrich thinks it will take to avoid that happening again. >>> plus one of my personal heroes, the fastest man in the history of planet earth. jamaican sprinter usain bolt revealing a talent you may not know he has. ♪ let's get together and feel all right ♪ >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, you are so hot, america. i mean that literally. the temperature was a balmy 60 degrees this afternoon in new york just outside cnn's studios. the average high temperature in december is normally 43. a warm front has flooded the lower 48 states. quite extraordinary but is it evidence of man-made global warming? that's tonight's battleground america. joining me now, bill nye the science guy and mark morano, the publisher of climate depo.com. welcome to you both. let me start with you, mark, if i may. you are implacably opposed to the concept of man-made climate change. why? >> we followed the evidence. there are quite literally hundreds of fact
and the man who shut down the government under bill clinton. what newt gingrich thinks it will take to avoid that happening again. >>> plus one of my personal heroes, the fastest man in the history of planet earth. jamaican sprinter usain bolt revealing a talent you may not know he has. ♪ let's get together and feel all right ♪ >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, you are so hot, america. i mean that literally. the...
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the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little bit, i think she will say i'd like to be the first woman president. >>> security is being tightened at the hospital where katherine is being treated for acute morning sickness after her privacy was invaded by a prank call from australia. i'm joined now by cnn's royal correspondent max foster. >> it's extraordinary. it's very simple. a couple radio presenters from australia, jokers on a comedy show, rang up the hospital, pretended to be the queen and prince charles and asked to be put through to the ward. just have a listen to the accents here, they're not
the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on >> the republicans must agree to higher tax rates on well off americans. all the way to the 39.6 that the president, they have to. that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of thin
i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a...
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the assumption that simpson-bolles had, the assumption that gang of six hilary clintons and said to our republican colleagues give us back what you want for a down payment. we're not going to solve all of this by the end of the year. then they said no, give us more details. through sakt geithner they've laid out more details. i think it's also -- >> in terms of new details, and it's taken so long. >> it's also incumbent on the president to realize that this is a conversation that he has to have not just with washington but the rest of the country. bringing in business leaders, small business leaders, going out across the country. one reason i think why this time it's going to be different from the failures of the past, the debt krilg debacle, the failure of the super committee, is i think the american people and particularly the american business community, realize what's at stake, and i think an awful lot of us, frankly, in both parties who are willing to get there -- i want to commend kelli as well. there's been a big group of us, well in excess of the majority in the senate who say w
the assumption that simpson-bolles had, the assumption that gang of six hilary clintons and said to our republican colleagues give us back what you want for a down payment. we're not going to solve all of this by the end of the year. then they said no, give us more details. through sakt geithner they've laid out more details. i think it's also -- >> in terms of new details, and it's taken so long. >> it's also incumbent on the president to realize that this is a conversation that he...
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you said you'd go back to the clinton era tax rates if you could get the spending that went with it. there are some in the republican party like congressman tom cole congress them saying let's just do that. let the rates go up for those at the top, then wait and negotiate. is there anything about that that you think could make sense? >> that's not a negotiation. the president's not going to then lower those rates. >> that might be a capitulation. >> yeah, it is a capitulation. the president thinks he's got all the cards. the republicans position improves at the beginning of the year and frankly, there are a number of people coming back, people who contributed to this mess and i'm not sure as a citizen i want them to be the ones who fix it. >> aren't they in a stronger position, democrats in january? >> which is all the more reason to get this done now. and really not look a gift horse in the mouth. only in washington, congress, is an agreement on 98% of something not the grounds for making a deal. you've got 98% agreement on taxes. take that deal. don't go over the fiscal cliff. live
you said you'd go back to the clinton era tax rates if you could get the spending that went with it. there are some in the republican party like congressman tom cole congress them saying let's just do that. let the rates go up for those at the top, then wait and negotiate. is there anything about that that you think could make sense? >> that's not a negotiation. the president's not going to then lower those rates. >> that might be a capitulation. >> yeah, it is a capitulation....
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hillary clinton's spokesperson resigned over the issue. the entire quantico prisoner base was affected. it reflects serious problems within the military system. it has a feeling about accountability and unaccountability is flowing into other parts of our life. >> now i don't want to get into detail, i know you have a strong point of view, obviously on how bradley manning has been treated. but i didn't want to go down that path. i wanted to ask a question about something else you thought about him. you said what they were doing is perhaps to coerce him to get you involved in all of this. he could make a deal to serve limited time. and to make that deal, you could be the guy who loses out. are you worried that that could be the deal, he says this is what julian assange did to get the information so you could leak it. >> i don't want to comment on the legal specifics that would be unwise in view of what's happening. there's a concurrent process that's occurring for the last two years, an ongoing grand jury who has sucked in a vast number of p
hillary clinton's spokesperson resigned over the issue. the entire quantico prisoner base was affected. it reflects serious problems within the military system. it has a feeling about accountability and unaccountability is flowing into other parts of our life. >> now i don't want to get into detail, i know you have a strong point of view, obviously on how bradley manning has been treated. but i didn't want to go down that path. i wanted to ask a question about something else you thought...
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president clinton was able to do this. he was able to triang late in his second term. he was in there to build legacy and i think that's something that president obama has got to take into store and i hope he continues to get advice from president clinton. >> good point. because it goes on speaking of former presidents, because george w. bush got re-elected in 2004 and he and the republicans were prepared to implement the agenda he ran on, elections of consequences. remember that famous soundbyte? obama ran on higher taxes for the wealthy and won. lz, shouldn't he be making the same argument? that is what he ran on. >> absolutely. you know what i find interesting, if you look at the statistics, many of the blue states that supported president obama are some of the richest states in the country. and so not only did you have him defeat romney pretty handedly in the electoral college, but people willing to sacrifice their own money to make sure that president obama, his policies made it to the white house. you know, it was th
president clinton was able to do this. he was able to triang late in his second term. he was in there to build legacy and i think that's something that president obama has got to take into store and i hope he continues to get advice from president clinton. >> good point. because it goes on speaking of former presidents, because george w. bush got re-elected in 2004 and he and the republicans were prepared to implement the agenda he ran on, elections of consequences. remember that famous...
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to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con man, as smart as he obviously was, apparently didn't have enough of because it seems that the mystery man didn't actually ask for any of the billion dollars or his cut up front. so sure, the ukraine loses a lot of face, but he leaves with presumably nothing. he didn't even get any cash. thanks so much for watching. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on dining in restaurants, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. par
to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con man, as smart as he obviously was, apparently didn't have enough of because it seems that the mystery man didn't actually ask for any of the billion dollars or his cut up front. so sure, the ukraine loses a lot of face, but he leaves with presumably nothing. he didn't even get any cash. thanks so much for watching. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on...
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if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a new system together where they would get in a room, chuck all the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of thing. we saw that last time around and if you read bob woodward's "the price of politics" it's one of the themes that comes through loud and clear. he's doing some things differently this time, though and one thing that i think is very interesting, he's taking his case to the american people and doing it day after day. all of us have talked on this show and other places about how bad the president has been in the past on selling what he wants to happen, on explaining his policies and really bringing people around to them. and we see him now trying to do that in a more forceful way than he's done in the
if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a new system together where they would get in a room, chuck all the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of...
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it was 39.6%, jessica, during the clinton administration. now there's some suggestion what if they compromise, have it go up to 36% or 37%, is that something you're hearing the white house would potentially be open to? not 39.6% but maybe 37%? >> reporter: this seems like an area, yes, for wiggle room, wolf. not because they say so, but because of what they won't say. when we asked that question, the white house does not say that it must only go back up to that high clinton rate. and so it seems that there could be some flexibility in how high -- what level it has to go back to. >> yeah. and that would be for those earning more than $250,000 a year. jessica, thanks very much. we're also learning more about what president obama and mitt romney talks about over lunch at the white house this afternoon. our national political correspondent jim acosta's getting some details. they also released the menu of what they were eating. but give us the substance. >> that's right. turkey chili was on the menu. perhaps thanksgiving leftovers. i talked to a
it was 39.6%, jessica, during the clinton administration. now there's some suggestion what if they compromise, have it go up to 36% or 37%, is that something you're hearing the white house would potentially be open to? not 39.6% but maybe 37%? >> reporter: this seems like an area, yes, for wiggle room, wolf. not because they say so, but because of what they won't say. when we asked that question, the white house does not say that it must only go back up to that high clinton rate. and so...
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secretary of state hillary clinton will be at that meeting and actually may announce if the united states is formally going to recognize this new group of unified opposition members as actually representative of syrian people. >> we are doing what we can to support the opposition, but also to try to support those inside syria, particularly in the local councils who are committed to the kind of continuity in the syrian governmental institutions so we don't see a collapse and disbandment of institutional forces that we know from our iraq experience could be extremely dangerous. >>> cnn's ivan watson is live with us now from istanbul in neighboring turkey. ivan, a lot of people got a chill about this blackout effectively a communications blackout. do we know for sure that it is the government of syria that effectively cut its country off from the rest of the world, or is there something else afoot? >> reporter: we don't know exactly. government officials have been quoted suggesting this was a rebel sabotage, but some of the internet security experts that we talked to suggests that this must
secretary of state hillary clinton will be at that meeting and actually may announce if the united states is formally going to recognize this new group of unified opposition members as actually representative of syrian people. >> we are doing what we can to support the opposition, but also to try to support those inside syria, particularly in the local councils who are committed to the kind of continuity in the syrian governmental institutions so we don't see a collapse and disbandment of...
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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask you this, wolf. you have been at this game a long time. this intractability sounds and feel it's like nothing we have ever seen before. do you have any sort of, i don't know, light on the horizon that you see? are we going to be this polarized and literally make the country pay for what's now become just sheer ugly politics? >> my own gut tells me that between now and the end of the year they will reach a deal. and it will be a compromise and both sides won't be thrilled by it, but it will be better than the alternative. and it will probably go down to the last minute. it usually does. maybe ruin some chris
in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask...
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. >> you told me last week -- you said that secretary clinton, hillary clinton, when she was in the region, she told abbas don't do this, don't push this at the u.n. well, he has done this, so what does this mean in terms of u.s. -- >> not completely clear, as they said. if he were -- if the palestinians were to join the international criminal court and then file complaints against the israelis, you know, i think you would definitely see motions by this administration to cut their funding. you may see that anyway. even if they join the international criminal court in reaction, the israelis have threatened that they were going to, you know, pull out support, cut the tax revenues, but in the end the palestinian hort is important to israel because they provide the policing there. israel doesn't want to have to go back in and take over, and that's exactly what abbas threatened them with. i'll give you the keys to the palestinian authority headquarters. come and take them. the israelis really don't want them. >> i sense this is an important story. i mean, obviously. you are talking about the pa
. >> you told me last week -- you said that secretary clinton, hillary clinton, when she was in the region, she told abbas don't do this, don't push this at the u.n. well, he has done this, so what does this mean in terms of u.s. -- >> not completely clear, as they said. if he were -- if the palestinians were to join the international criminal court and then file complaints against the israelis, you know, i think you would definitely see motions by this administration to cut their...
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americans, many of whom themselves are happy to pay a slightly higher rate the way we did when president clinton was president. >> mary is shaking her head and i am, too. i traveled enough in the far east to know you bargain appropriately with respect. you don't come in knowing that something's laughable. mary -- >> so wait. i don't travel in the far east. you think people should just give up on their principles and the things they campaigned for? >> no, but i think you do have to bargain from a position of respect. mary, is this something that was so disrespectful that you can't even counter, the republicans can't even counterbargain here? >> here's what -- i don't know why the republicans are so surprised. i myself was offended and felt disrespected yesterday because the working framework, the intellectual working framework, erskine from the bowles/simpson, from domenici/rivlin going all the way back was a basic framework of $3 of savings for $1 of revenues. we get it. it's the opening bid. but we thought the opening bid would at least be in the framework of this planet that we're dealing in.
americans, many of whom themselves are happy to pay a slightly higher rate the way we did when president clinton was president. >> mary is shaking her head and i am, too. i traveled enough in the far east to know you bargain appropriately with respect. you don't come in knowing that something's laughable. mary -- >> so wait. i don't travel in the far east. you think people should just give up on their principles and the things they campaigned for? >> no, but i think you do...
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obama versus clinton. they are both up for a grammy in the best spoken word album. >>> 2, 1. >> the first lady joined her husband to light the 28-foot blue spruce christmas tree. it was transplanted days before hurricane sandy before made it. in case you're wondering, this year's white house holiday card is all about bo. the card was designed by an iowa artist and dog lover. that's too cute. >> you can't go wrong if you put your pets or your kids on a card. >> do you put yourself? >> never. >> just kids? >> just kids. >> the white house christmas card is a big deal. when you're on the white house staff, you get a special version of it. people frame it. this is a beautiful card. i love it. >> our team this morning weigh in on the important topic of the annual christmas card for the white house. will cain, cnn contributor. richard socarides, a writer for new yorker.com. this is kind of a disgusting story about snake hunts. not snakes on a plane exactly, but more like this. >> enough is enough. i have had it
obama versus clinton. they are both up for a grammy in the best spoken word album. >>> 2, 1. >> the first lady joined her husband to light the 28-foot blue spruce christmas tree. it was transplanted days before hurricane sandy before made it. in case you're wondering, this year's white house holiday card is all about bo. the card was designed by an iowa artist and dog lover. that's too cute. >> you can't go wrong if you put your pets or your kids on a card. >> do you...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
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you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria indeed, which is saying it's not going to do, uses the weapons out of desperation, because here you have some rebel strongholds that is not bowing to the syrian regime, despite the fact that it is repeatedly conventionally bombed. when you reach a level where there is desperation for a regime that feels everything around it is crumbling, the question is what will it use in order to try in some desperate last ditch measure to protect itself. that is the concern. the u.s. has always said this is a concern because it is not just within the borders of syria, that it
you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria...
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secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this point if, in fact, they are already in a position where they're loading these components on to the weapons? >> well, one is this public message from the united states, from the nato secretary general and from the russians. the syrian government, including assad personally, will be held accountable. second is perhaps to see if the russians can use their influence. they're the big egest arms supplier to syria, the biggest ally that syria has, to dissuade the syrians from letting this chemical weapons loose or using them against the rebel alliance. if assad should fall and there's a chaotic period of time where no one is in charge of the government in
secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this point if, in fact, they are already in a position where they're loading these...
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secretary of state clinton was in the region last week. she met with president abbas and tried to pressure him. let's listen to what she told reporters yesterday. >> no matter what happens at the united nations, it will not produce the outcome that this government, this president and certainly i strongly support. the only way to get a lasting solution is to commence direct negotiation. >> so israel is opposed to this and threatened sanctions against the palestinian if it goes through, threatening about $100 million a month withholding of palestinian revenue and the u.s. fears could lead to renewed violence between israelis and palestinians to lead them further away from a deal. so much so that the u.s. is threatening to withhold aid to the palestinians if this goes ahead. >> the former israeli prime minister said, quote, it lays the foundation for a two-state solution. is there a reason to believe once palestinians get u.n. recognition that they will not go back to the negotiating table with israel? >> well, that's what president abbas sai
secretary of state clinton was in the region last week. she met with president abbas and tried to pressure him. let's listen to what she told reporters yesterday. >> no matter what happens at the united nations, it will not produce the outcome that this government, this president and certainly i strongly support. the only way to get a lasting solution is to commence direct negotiation. >> so israel is opposed to this and threatened sanctions against the palestinian if it goes...